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their Witchcraft is more tolerated by the Powers of the Nations; but I am confident that there is more People in the World bewitched with them, than there is with the other Sort of Witches; that is, they are deceived both in Body and in Mind, and Eftate; for when a Man is deceived in his Expectations and Faith which he had in that Art, he may very well. be faid to be bewitched. But as for the raifing of Spirits, without Bodies, there is no Witch, no Conjurer, or Magician, nor the greatest Artist in the World, can do; neither can any Spirit affume any Body but its own.

So much for natural Witches.

And as for thofe lying Signs and Wonders which John Robins did act, it was by a mere fpiritual Witchcraft; his was not by the Knowledge of the Stars, though he had fome Skill in that too; but the Power of his Witchcraft did lie in the affuming and taking upon him the Title of the great God, as you may read in our Books; and fo that his Reason being more excercifed in the Scriptures, upon fpiritual Matters, because the whole Body of the Scriptures doth confist of spiritual and heavenly Matter; and he having more Knowledge in the Mystery of the Scriptures, at that Time, than all Men in the World, therefore he had many that did fall down and worship him, because his Knowledge in the Scriptures did furpafs other Men, and fo produced Voices in himself, and could prefent lying Signs and Wonders unto all thofe that were deceived by him, or that were afraid of him. Yet he did not deal with Spirits that had not Bodies, but all that Wisdom and Witchcraft that he did fhew, it came or arose out of his own Spirit of Reason, which was inclosed in his own Body. And there is the Influence of the fame Spirit of Witchcraft doth now remain upon those People called Quakers, notwithstanding their seeming Holiness; for they have many Times fuch fleshly Fits falling upon them, which doth feem as if they had the Falling-Sicknefs, and be as Men dumb, and will not speak a Word for three or four Hours together, and upon a fudden, they will break forth into a ftrong Language, as if the Spirit did immediately move them to fpeak. This, I fay, it is nothing else but an Influence of John Robins's fpiritual Witchcraft, which is produced out of their own Spirit within

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them, and not from any Spirit which hath no Body, without them. And all this is because they have no Knowledge of the true God, or the right Devil.

Therefore it is that the greatest Part of the World doth lie under Witchcraft, either a natural Witchraft or a spiritual Witchcraft; there is a very few, that is delivered from being under one or both of them. There is none delivered but thofe that are come to have Faith in this fpiritual Commiffion, which is now extant in the World; for Faith in it doth lead Men to the Knowledge of the true God and the right Devil, with all thofe deep Myfteries, which doth depend on them, the Knowledge of which doth free a Man from all Witchcrafts whatsoever.

Therefore, I would advise you to read the Book of ours, called The Divine Looking-Glafs; for that you may fee there, that there can be no Spirits without a Body; neither can any Witch or Conjurer raise any Spirit without a Body: But thefe Conjurers may do, through the Ignorance and Darknefs of Man's Reason, and that Fear and Belief that is in the Ignorant, they may, by their ignorant Power, raise a Shadow of Things, as if they were real Bodies, or Spirits, in the Shape of Bodies, as the Egyptians did before Pharaoh, King of Egypt; they did feem to raise Frogs and Grafshoppers in the Sight of Pharaoh, King of Egypt; but I fay they were not real Frogs and Grasshoppers, but Shadows of fuch Things, which as foon as ever their Witchcraft Power Art was over, their Frogs and Grafshoppers were gone alfo, elfe would the King and his People been as much troubled at thofe Frogs, which the Magicians did bring up on their Land, as they were with those which Mofes brought up, which went into their Houses. And now, if Mafes had not raised Bodies, as well as Spirits; or if he had raised Spirits without Bodies, they would have been as little troubled at thofe Things which Mofes did, as they were at thofe Shadows, or feeming Things, which the Magicians of Egypt did. There is fome more of the Letter; but I have not Time to writ it. Vale, fo refteth your Friend,

London, March 29, 1660.

LODOWICK MUGGLETON.

A DISCOURSE between John Reeve and Richard Leader, Merchant; recited by Lodowick Muggleton, one of the two laft Witnesses and Prophets of the most high God, the Man Chrift Jefus in Glory.

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HIS Richard Leader, notwithstanding he was well fatisfied in spiritual Things, as to his eternal Happiness, yet there was fome Things as to temporal Matters, which we had declared, that he could not as yet confent unto, because it was contrary to the Rule and Art of Aftrology and Philofophy; for I asked him what it was; he faid, you declare the Sun is not much bigger than it feemeth to be, and our Art faith, it is threefcore Times bigger than the Earth: Also, said he, you say the Moon doth not borrow any Light of, nor from the Sun Likewife you fay, that the Heavens is not much above fix Miles high from the Earth; and we by our Art do fay, the Heavens are Thousands of Miles high from the Earth; thefe Things, faith he, feemeth fomething strange.

Then I answered, and faid unto him, You are a Man, that have travelled through many Parts of the World, and you have been in that Place, called the equinoctial Line, where the Sun is nearest to the Earth of any other Place, where the Heat is fo great, that no Creature can fcarce live, the Sun is fo hot; did the Sun feem any bigger to your Sight, when it was near to the Earth, than at other Times, when you were at a Distance? You faw the full Proportion of it, did you not? He answered, and faid, he did. Then faid I, did the Sun feem any bigger to your Eye-fight, where it was near to the Earth, than at other Times? He anfwered, no, not any bigger, as he could difcern. Why then, faid I, will you believe your lying Figure, before you will believe your own Eye-fight? You must either fay, the Sight of your Eye is falfe, or the traditional Figure you depend upon is false; now hath not God appointed the Sight of the Eye to be Judge of that it

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fees? But Men hath chose rather to believe their lying Imagination, which they never faw, nor never can fee, nor knows not what it is; therefore it hath erected a Figure, that Man might be led into Darkness, imagine Things that are not, and make People believe, that the natural Sight, that God hath given Men in their Creation, to be Judge of what it fees, to be a falfe Sight, and a falfe Judge; and your dark Imagination. and Figure to be a true Light, and a true Judge of the Bignefs of the Sun. For confider,

That the Imagination of Reason in Man, doth always judge God to be bigger than he is, or leffer than he is; likewife Imagination being blind, it judgeth God's Power to be greater than it is, or leffer than it is; and fo it doth in the Works of Creation: As for Example; the Imagination of Man judgeth, that God made this vaft Earth and Waters of Nothing; which is more than God could do, for he never made any Thing of Subftance of Nothing, for of Nothing comes Nothing; for what Thing or Creature, that God made of Nothing, God will turn it to Nothing again. Then would it be well for all wicked Men, if the Earth was made of Nothing, and Men made of the Duft of the Earth; then, when this Earth is turned to Nothing, its Original alfo ; but this Earth was an eternal dark Chaos, and fhall return at the laft Day into Darkness again, and wicked reprobate Man fhall live upon this Earth in eternal Torments, in utter Darkness, for ever and ever.

So that neither the Earth, nor wicked Man, the Seed of the Serpent, shall neither of them both be turned to Nothing, but fhall be in utter Darkness to Eternity. Again, the Imagination judgeth the Sun, Moon, and Stars, to be of vaft greater Bignefs, though they feem to be small Bodies to us; fo that the Imagination of Man, being blind, judgeth every Thing bigger than it is, or lefs than it is; though God hath made the Sun, Moon, and Stars, little Bodies, to give Light unto the Earth and Waters, and in their Light, the Creatures here on Earth do fee Light; and God hath made thefe Lights, Bodies in Heaven, to answer to that Light that is in little Bodies here on Earth. And fhall a Man fay, the Light of his Eyes is no true Light, but

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the Imagination, that feeth not at all, is called true Light; thus it is with Aftrology, and Philofophy, that judgeth God to be bigger than he is, or leffer than he is, and his Power to be greater than it is, to create this vaft Earth and Waters of Nothing; and the Sun, Moon, and Stars, of fuch a vast Bignefs, all out of Nothing: So that the lying Imagination hath created to itself a bigger God than the true God, and this God hath a greater Power, and hath created Things of a more bigger Magnitude, than the true God ever did, and could do, as to make this Earth of Nothing, and the Sun, Moon, and Stars, of fuch a vaft Bignefs, far bigger than ever the true God made them. But to tell the Imagination of Man of the true God, that created Man in his own Image, he became Flesh, and became a little Child, and grew to a Man, and fuffered Death by his own Creatures. O! no, faith the Reason in Man, God could not die, it is impoffible for God to die ; here God's Power is looked upon, by the Imagination of Men's Hearts, to be less than it is.

Objection 1. Said he, The Sun may feem to be but a little Body, because of the great Distance from us: As for Example, fet a Man upon the Top of Paul's, and at a Diftance he will fhew as little as a Crow. To this he answered and faid, Indeed a dark Body at a Distance doth fhew less than it is. But, faid I, let a light Body, as a Torch, or Candle, be but a Mile above the Earth, if it were poffible, and it fhall fhew bigger a hundred Miles Distance from it. As for Example:

When a Beacon is fet on Fire, it seemeth a greater Blaze forty Miles Distance, than it doth near at Hand, for it is but a little Thing of itself; yet nevertheless, it is the Nature of all light Bodies, to fhew rather bigger at a Distance, than they are of themselves; and it is the Nature of all dark Bodies, to feem lefs at a Distance, than they are in themselves. When he heard this, he was convinced; and did acknowledge, that it muft needs be fo in Nature, that light Bodies did fhow bigger at a Distance, and dark Bodies lefs; fo that the Sun being a bright Fire, light Body, and running fo fwift in its Courfe, it could not be much bigger than it feemeth to be, notwithstanding he had long imagined the contrary.

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